From the Description of WEAI:
"On April 25, 2018, Qin Gao, Professor of Social Policy and Social Work and Director, China Center for Social Policy, at Columbia University, discussed China’s Dibao social assistance programs with the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs. Professor Gao, an expert on China’a Dibao social welfare program, was interviewed by Stephanie Sy for the Carnegie Council’s “Ethics Matter” podcast and video series. The Carnegie Council’s transcript of the conversation and its podcast are available here."